Dear Readers,
This man Ahumanb carries a flag of religion and jumps into Quran and Hadith but I found his explanations are most of the time wrong, not just by his attitude (which is his own property), but also in meanings when he translates or explains. Very politely I requested him in the past to provide correct translations and to present unbiased explanation. He never listened to me. Instead, came after me along with the cohorts in his tent, to subjugate and defame me, whatever way he could. He is a real snake with venom, can bite anyone without mercy (perhaps except his cohorts). The same has been surfaced again in his write-up below.
He acts and talks like a street hoodlums (like the group leaders of mastans, chadabazes, and hijackers). This clearly show how low and terrible he could be in dealing with the others. He never understands or values the courtesy. He thinks that defaming the others, killing the characters of the others, twisting the facts, and being extremely rude to others who he does not like; will bring achievements in his cunning plots. If he has the genuine agenda, that will bring values to the lives of the Bangladeshis, he can pursue it, if needed over and over, but keeping the sanity; and talk with the others like a gentlemen. But it clearly appears to me that he does not have that kind of plan. Rather, being deceitful, rude, rugged and showing extremism is his regular way of life.
He did not leave any stone unturned to insult me by all ways he can. His treatment gives me a feeling that he wants to be the king of the cyberland, making all others his enemy who he does not like, killing them cyberwise whatever way he can, and reign that territory. So, please see how despicable he could be.
Please read a few of my direct responses to his e-mail:
(1) Ahumanb: [Let me remind you that this so-called "Kajimel Raisuddin"]
Kajimel: "Kajimel Raisuddin" is my real name. I never use any fake name like Raihan as Ahumanb.
From is statement, this man appears to be completely illiterate in arabic. But he translates Quran in his writes-up. He uses somebody else's
translations ignorantly but intentionally twists to achieve his wicked intentions. He does not even know that "Kajim", "el" and "Raisuddin" are
all three pure arabic words.
Criticizing about somebody else's name is absolutely not his business by any standard. This derigatory activity proves that he has serious ill intentions and is is completely ignorant about what he talks about.
(2) Ahumanb: [..is not a Muslim]
Kajimel: My fourteen generations are bengali muslims, bangla as the language and muslim by religion. Where and how this man found that I am a
non-muslim? Again, this proves that how a terrible fake liar he could be, who provides completely wrong information to people just to
harass someone who he wants to smear out of the screen. Does he know that the liars are the devil's brothers.
(3) Ahumanb: [...although he was pretending to be so in a debate with another person!]
Kajimel: In my posting, I never debate with anybody. Readers, please see my original posting. I found that the Quranic verses were being
wrongly translated by some other ones. I just provided the correct translation with the best of my knowledge. I did not copy
somebody elses' translation. The translation provided in my posting is my own translation. Rather than doing a beastly behavior with me,
if there was anything wrong in translation, he could point it out in a courteous manner. But he has no idea how people can be gentle
and still achieve what is genuinely expected.
(4) Ahumanb: [I am using "so-called Kajimel Raisuddin" because this is a fake name.]
Kajimel: I explained above already that he is dead wrong about saying my name is fake. It is my legal parent given name and appears on all of my
records. He is a man illiterate in arabic and so he made such an ugly remark.
(5) Ahumanb: [...He is an old chap with a new skin.]
Kajimel: Does this statement have any merit other than just expressing extreme vulgarity. See what kind of discriminatory ill mentality he has.
What does he mean by new skin? Did I change anything now from the past? What does he know about me? Making darigatory words
to someone, even not knowing who he is, not the work of any humans but of the devils.
(6) Ahumanb: He came forward to rescue Syed Mirza (another fake name) couple of days ago.
Kajimel: He is saying that Syed Mirza's name is fake also. Syed Kamran Mirza have so many postings with the same name. He does not use any
fake name like Ahumanb who has real name Raihan. Since he is fake, he thinks everybody else is fake too. This proves clearly that he
is just a mental patient. What does he mean by the word rescue. This proves that he is not on the forums for making dialogues but
to fight with the others inhumanly, unethically, with ignorance and extremism like the wild beasts.
(7) Ahumnb: [Now the charlatan has come forward to rescue Mr. Ashghar]
Kajimel: I do not think any gentlemen would say someone charlatan. This proves how rotten and inhuman he is. I do not belong to any party,
any organization, any group, any entity. I am just an independent person. I want my motherland flourish. I do not want my
motherland becomes the nursery of the despicable souls.
(8) Ahumanb: [...knowing the fact that both of them are being used as anti-Muslim slaves since 9-11 drama.]
Kajimel: A thief is likely to think that everybody else is thief. Likewise, a stupid slave might have the chance of thinking that perhaps all other
people are slave like him. This despicable soul must be the slaves of some sector. He has perhaps been beaten by his masters so badly
that made him deaf and dumb and perhaps for that reason he addresses all others as the slave. I am the most independent person on
the face of the earth. So far I have not found anybody or any system or any organization did anything with me to curtail my
independence. It is only possible because I value courtesy, I respect everybody's opinion as long as it is not twisted like the one
Ahumanb does, I value humanity above everything else, and I have proper ways to serve my legal, social, community, motherland,
and religious duties. 9/11 is the darkest chapter in the history of the muslims. All muslims must try to stop this types of events from
happening anymore. This responsibility first comes to muslims for existence and honesty.
(9) Ahumanb: [And btw, this Kajimel Raisuddin has also been exposed in notun_bangladesh forum by many members. ]
Kajimel: Notun_Bangladesh is a sanctuary of the extremists. When I found that the moderator himself is engaged in doing extremism and
uses nasty words, call the names of the others; and orchestrates heavily their motives in radical ways using several despicable
lieutenants and cohorts gong like Ahumanb, Faruque alamgir, Salahuddin Ayubi, I found it to be just a wastage of time for me like
I am wasting here. So, I soon unsubscribed that site. I never want to be around the bandits who chose force over the discussions.
(10) Ahumanb: [Kajimel Raisuddin wrote: "So, we see that ALLAH is claiming to be the best of the creators. HE is indicting BA'L as an alternate
creator. But HE (Allah) is claiming to be the best of the creators."
Kajimel: In my posting I provided originsl translation from Arabic to English like this (c) Atadu'na BA'LAN: Would you invite BA'L; (d) wa tazaruna:
And you will leave; (e) ahsan el khalikina.: The best of the creators?
Now I am asking, is there any error in translation in the meaning? I suppose not. Then there is no argument at all here. This is from
Quran (Allah's own words) and here HE says that HE is the best of the creators. He also mentions the name of BA'L. HE says why to go
to BA'L while he is best of the creators. The meaning is meaning. Ahumanb may not like it. He expects that Allah had to say something
else than this but the Authority is to Allah, not to Ahumanb. Quran's meaning must not be twisted. Ahumanb must stop it.
(11) Ahumanb: [Mr. Ashghar's ignorance has already been exposed very clearly in my previous response. Yet this charlatan has come forward to
rescue him using lies and deception. The charlatan should read the verse once again:]
Kajimel: Again saying someone a charlatan is only possible by a charlatan. I never used any word like this for him ever. So, he is a real charlatan.
While Ahumanb proves over and over that he is the real ignorant but a quite crazy person, it is possible for him to think everyboy else as
ignorant. So, when he says Asghar is an ignorant, it really does not mean anything. It only gives the reflection of his sick mind. Ahumanb
must read item 10 to make sure what is the actual meaning. His ignorance in arabic language and his rigidity to listen to anyone else, will
not help him much in understanding the actual meaning.
(12) Ahumanb: [So also was Elias among those sent (by Us). Behold, he (Elias) said to his people, "Will ye not fear (Allah)? Will ye call upon Baal
and forsake the Best of Creators. Allah, your Lord and Cherisher and the Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of old?"
(Quran 37: 123-126)]
Kajimel: How my translation means differently then this? I can be too stupid, but I see the same thing here. Allah is insisting to be with him as
he is the best of the creators, and not to seek Ba'l.
This ignorant Ahumanb just loves to create thunder without any existence of lightning. The is no difference in meaning what I provided
and what he is providing here. So, why it became a controversy? I think only because he does not believe in Allah's words. He has his
own thinking, and he expects that Allah says something different to satisfy him. This will never happen. A misguided person like him can
only do damage for the society, not helping in anything.
(13) Ahumanb: [Anyway, I can't teach an old dog a new trick. If he thinks he is sound enough to debate with me on the Qur'anic issues, then
he is welcome in shodalap.com site to open a debate. Otherwise he will be exposed in time if he keeps preaching his
anti-Islamic trash.]
Kajimel: while I really believe in what Allah says, Ahumanb defines me as anti-islamic. He did not believe in Allah's word. so, who is anti-islamic?
Me or him? A trash only thinks that everybody else is trash. So, actually killing my time with this type of issues really make me sick.
I do not have ample time to deal with these kinds of people who has the attitudes like the street hoodlums.
I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IF AHUMAND OR ANY ONE OF HIS COHORTS HARASS ME ANY MORE, AS HAS BEEN DONE HERE.
I'LL NEVER ENGAGE MYSELF ANY MORE WITH THESE TYPES OF DISTURBING PEOPLE. I'LL JUST DELETE THE E-MAILS IF I GET
ANYMORE. READERS, I BEG TO YOU ALL THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY FRUITLESS, TO BE ENGAGED IN THIS TYPE OF NON-PRODUCTIVE
ISSUES. PLEASE PARDON ME IF YOU SEE IN FUTURE THAT I REMAINED QUIET, EVEN THOUGH THESE RADICAL BANDS TRY TO ATTACK
ME FOR NO REASON.
Thanks for patiently reading my extremely boring and meritless posting.
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Below I am providing just one additional example about Ahumanb's past activity.
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Dear readers,
For some time I am being disturbed by slanders from a group of writers in internet forums. The issue started from just a simple incident. Ahumanb published an article, providing lots of quotations from the Holy Q'uran. Quotes are all OK. However, in the meanings and explanations that he provided, had a lot of errors, mistakes, and slanders. I responded very briefly with only a few lines saying him that the article has some errors, mis-informations, and directed against the other muslims. I requested him to re-visit his article and correct those problems. He instead reacted very vigorously against me and along with the other people in his band started slandering against me. I did not want to engage with him because his language and attitude provided me a perception that he will not listen to me whatever I say. I did not spoil my time just being engaged with him without having any good results. But slandering against me is going on, and not stopping anywhere. So, ultimately, I decided to physically to show all the readers, only a few examples of where he was wrong.
Basically he used the Holy Quran, as the weapon to slander and defame some other people who he repeatedly spelled the names over and over. His anger erupted like the volcanoes; and all these eruptions were against some people, who perhaps he found in the past, not to agree with him, on some points. In his article, he is showing extreme intolerance against the other muslims. He wants to say, he is perhaps, the only good muslim; all the other muslims are no good, and have dead souls. How come this live souled true muslim, could twist the Q'uranic verses, and give wrong explanations; just to achieve his goal of nothing but damaging the credibility of the other muslims? Who is he to make all these claims? Who gave him that much religious authority to judge the other muslims? Definitely, there will be no other Rasul after Hazrat Mohammad (SM). If this vane cheat idiotic vulgar man had any bit of good quality as Mohammad (SM) or the Sahaba's had, he could not be so low in thoughts, language, and tricks. He is talking about the tricks to play against the others. No good muslim will play tricks against the others, no matter muslims or non-muslims. Allah will not provide heavens to the munafiks. This article clearly indicate that this person is completely a munafik, who does not hesitate to twist the truths, even from the Holy Q'uran.
Mr. Raihan (in disguise as Ahumanb) wrote:
(1) আবুল কাশেম, কামরান মির্জা, আযগর, আলী সিনা, ইবনে ওয়ারাক ও আয়ান হিরসি আলীর মত প্যাগান মেন্টালিটির লোকজন সাধারণত ফলোয়ারদের দিয়ে ধর্মকে বিচার করে। বিশেষ করে ৯-১১ নাটকের পর ইসলামকে টেররিজম, এক্সট্রিমিজম, ভায়োলেন্স, সুইসাইড বোম্বিং ইত্যাদির সাথে লিঙ্ক করার পর থেকে এই ট্রেন্ড চালু হয়েছে (মনে হচ্ছে ৯-১১ নাটকের ঠিক পূর্ব মুহূর্ত থেকে কোরানের বিষাক্ত ও ধারালো নখ-দাঁত-হাত-পা-ইত্যাদি গজানো শুরু হয়েছে)!
[English translation: The people like Abul Qasem, Kamran Mirza, Asgar, Ali Sina, Ibe Waraq, and Ayan Haris Ali, with pagan mentality, usually judges the religion by the followers. This trend started specially after the 9-11 drama. Islam is linked with terrorism, extremism, violence, suicide bombing etc. It seems just from the moment of 9-11 drama, Q'uran is getting a growth of poisonous and sharp nails, teeth, hands, and feet etc.]
Response: You said these people are of pagan mentality. You are dead wrong about the label you are putting on these people. How do you know they are pagan or lot more religious than you? You probably will say, I guess they are pagan. This will really be a very very dumb guess. From your statement, it appears that you are really a pagan, not them. Ask me why? I can bet, none of them will go that far where you have gone. You said, "Q'uran is getting a growth of poisonous and sharp nails, teeth, hands, and feet.." This is an ugly and vulgar comment against holy Q'uran. You can not do it to a holy book. You are seriously disrespecting the Q'uran. Man !!!, you are trying to hijack the Q'uran, quoting its sacred verses, to defame and laud the others who does not sound stupid like you. Your main stirring force is your grudge against all who can not agree with you. How the normal people can agree with someone like you, who has the mentality of an oxymoron. You are just busy against the others, to defame and denounce but you do never see your face in the mirror, how low you have gone down with your ignorance and grudge. Good and wise people always think twice before saying something. You are such a vane jealous, angry, brain-damaged, evil-minded guy that with the lebas of Quran, you are just trying to harm the others labeling as bad people, who can not say "yes" with you. You are following the path of devil. Devil was the wisest angel one time, but because of his sick and idiotic mentality like you, he became Shoytan. Your activity and mentality shows that you are not less than the Shoytan, because you are following the same path capitalizing lie, cheat, despise, and harming the others. You are busy with hijacking and falsifying the words from the Holy Quran. I can guarantee that if you knew these persons physically by yourself, you would be astonished that they are not in show business with religion like you.
(2) "প্রতিরোধকল্পে একটি মহল অত্যন্ত পরিকল্পিতভাবে ইসলামকে টেররিজম, এক্সট্রিমিজম, ভায়োলেন্স, সুইসাইড বোম্বিং ইত্যাদির সাথে লিঙ্ক করার অপচেষ্টা চালিয়ে যাচ্ছে। আর তাদের সাথে যোগ দিয়েছে মুযলিম ব্যাকগ্রাউন্ড থেকে আবুল কাশেম, আলী সিনা, কামরান মির্জা, আযগর, ইবনে ওয়ারাক ও আয়ান হিরসি আলীর মত কিছু পা-চাটা দাস-দাসী।".
[English translation: A sector is very carefully planning to link Islam with terrorism, extremism, violence, suicide bombing and are trying badly to advertise it. People like Abul Qasem, Ali Sina, Kamran Mirza, Asgar, Ibe Waraq, and Ayan haris Ali are like their boot-licker slaves].
Response: Before making a comment like this, you must make sure what you are saying has any reality. Do you want to say that Al-Qaeda's 9/11 attack in New York and Washington DC were not true? Al-Qaeda's several bombings all over the world are all false? Al-Qaeda did not occupy Afghanistan? Was not Taliban formed by the madrasa students from Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other countries with the aid from Pakistan, and along with Al-Qaeda formed the religious extremist Government in Afghanistan? Were not all these people Muslims? When sun rises, everybody sees it. The same way, when a part of fanatic Muslims did all these, the people of entire world saw these incidents. Why do you say a sector is falsely trying to link Islam with terrorism, extremism, violence, suicide bombing? The fact that the entire world saw the muslims did these deplorable acts. We must self-criticize, as opposed to, hiding these spectacular open incidents, under the false curtain. Of course a band of muslims, who are nothing but just stupid, selfish, idiotic, heinous, ignorant culprits did these incidents, and are trying to do more now, and will be trying to do more in future; must have done it hijacking the religion. Religion does never support the mass murder of unarmed regular public of any country. Q'uran says who will kill, will not enter the Heaven. These fanatic muslims are twisting the Q'uran, and are going directly against it. Did the muslim communities protested against these violent events? At least you and people like you did not protest against these kinds of inhuman unreligious heinous acts. Some of you even clapped with joy. Some conscious people voiced against them. You guys branded them as boot-licker slaves of some evil sectors.
Man!!!, you are such a big twister of truth, have no respect for human life, are just trying to achieve martyrdom promoting fanaticism. Despicable people like you are just submerged inside the pool of dreams to acquire more and more beautiful hurs in the hereafter, rather trying to build prosperous and peaceful human societies on the earth in this world. Your selfishness is just worth shame, shame, and shame.
(3) "কোরানে কোন ধর্মকে যেমন ফলস বলা হয়নি তেমনি আবার কোন ধর্মকে সরাসরি বাতিল ঘোষণাও করা হয়নি, যেটা অনেকেই জানে না"।
[English Translation: The way Q'uran did not declare any religion as false, the same way it did not make any religion obsolete].
Response: What a twist !!! Q'uran says, "Inna al-dina ind Allah el Islam". The meaning is, "For sure Islam is the only religion to your God." Allah declared in Q'uran that Islam is the only religion to Him. That means, Allah wants everybody to be in Islam. In reality, even after 1400 some years, there are a lot of non-muslims in the world. This raihan guy, being disguised as Ahumanb, is twisting the Holy Q'uran. He is a cheater. He is not a muslim. He must be a boot-licker and slave of fanatic terrorist Islam hijacker.
(4) "মজার বিষয় হচ্ছে, এই পা-চাটা দাস-দাসীরা ইসলাম ত্যাগের ঘোষণা দিয়ে একদিকে যেমন ইসলাম ও মুসলিমদের বিরুদ্ধে ঘৃণা, বিদ্বেষ ও অপপ্রচার চালাতে থাকে অন্যদিকে আবার প্রভুদের ধর্মকে ডিফেন্ড করারও চেষ্টা করে! এমনকি বুশের মত ম্যাস মার্ডারারকেও তারা প্রকাশ্যে সমর্থন করতে দ্বিধা করে না। অন্য কোন ধর্মে এরকম অস্বাভাবিক মুরতাদ খুঁজে পাওয়া যায় না। আর এ কারণেই ইযলামিক মুরতাদদের এত বেশী ডিম্যান্ড! এই ফুলহার্ডি দাস-দাসীদের মহা-জ্ঞানী, মহা-বিজ্ঞানী, মহা-দার্শনিক, মহা-মানবতাবাদী ইত্যাদি খেতাবে ভূষিত করে ভাঙ্গা কুলার মত ব্যবহার করা হচ্ছে!"
[English Translation: Amazing thing is that after declaring to leave Islam, the way these boot-licker slaves keep spreading hate and wrong message about Islam, on the other hand keep supporting the religions of their masters. They even do not hesitate to openly support the Bush's mass murder. And for that reason the islamically dead souls have so much demand! These fool hard slaves are being bestowed with the famous titles as the most-knowledgeable, expert-scientist, famous-philosopher, most-humanist, etc.; and are being used as the broken flap of the fans.]
Response: Where this man has observed this scenario? Does he mean that the muslims are flocking around the enemies of Islam and leaving Islam to get the titles of the most-knowledgeable, expert-scientist, famous-philosopher, most-humanist, etc. This man is so stupid that I believe his brain is nothing but cow-dung. I have seen many converts both ways; coming to Islam and to leave Islam also. However, in my entire life, I have not seen anybody, to change religion who became famous as the most-knowledgeable, expert-scientist, famous-philosopher, or most-humanist, etc. There is nothing too perfect in the world. All religions are personal faith. This is relative also. The severity of how much someone will be observing the religion, solely depends upon, the individual understanding and affinity to the religion. In a religious family, not everybody is equally religious. Also, in a non-religious family, not everybody is equally non-religious. Not even all husband and wives are equally religious or non-religious. Does this man want to say that all the learned people are non-religious? Where did he get this statistics? I do not believe that Dr.Yunus left Islam and became Christian or took any other religion in order to get the Nobel Prize. I do not know that he became the boot-licker slave of Sweden, the country that gave him the Nobel Prize. I do not know the world famous Bangladeshi Scientist Abul Husam, who invented the water filter to remove arsenic, left Islam and became the America's boot-licker slave. I did not know, the World's most famous Bangladeshi Architect Fazlur Rahman Khan left Islam and became the boot-licker slave of America. I know that he died in Saudi Arabia, the center of Islam. So, where is the truth of his claim? Rather I see oppositely, that he is instigating the muslims in Bangladesh to create disturbances in the country, fighting against each other such that some outside evil forces can invade the country, finding the opportunity of lawlessness, as happened in Afghanistan. My dear Bangladeshi peace loving general public, I beg to you all, not to participate into any agitation, chaos, or any disturbances, getting calls from these kinds of opportunist people. All we need peaceful homes, and we can get it, only when we do not participate into any damaging and subversive activities against anybody else in our country. Thanks a lot.
Thanks and have a great day.
Regards,
KR
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com
From: ahumanb@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 05:30:12 +0000
Subject: Re: FW: [khabor.com] Mr. Asghar's another deception
Dear Members,
Let me remind you that this so-called "Kajimel Raisuddin" is not a
Muslim although he was pretending to be so in a debate with another
person! I am using "so-called Kajimel Raisuddin" because this is a
fake name. He is an old chap with a new skin. He came forward to
rescue Syed Mirza (another fake name) couple of days ago. Now the
charlatan has come forward to rescue Mr. Ashghar knowing the fact
that both of them are being used as anti-Muslim slaves since 9-11
drama. And btw, this Kajimel Raisuddin has also been exposed in
notun_bangladesh forum by many members.
Kajimel Raisuddin wrote: "So, we see that ALLAH is claiming to be the
best of the creators. HE is indicting BA'L as an alternate creator.
But HE (Allah) is claiming to be the best of the creators."
Mr. Ashghar's ignorance has already been exposed very clearly in my
previous response. Yet this charlatan has come forward to rescue him
using lies and deception. The charlatan should read the verse once
again:
So also was Elias among those sent (by Us). Behold, he (Elias) said
to his people, "Will ye not fear (Allah)? Will ye call upon Baal and
forsake the Best of Creators. Allah, your Lord and Cherisher and the
Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of old?" (Quran 37: 123-126)
Source:
http://www.quran.org/quran/quran4/So, it was Prophet Elias, and not Allah, who was addressing to his
people. Anyway, I can't teach an old dog a new trick. If he thinks he
is sound enough to debate with me on the Qur'anic issues, then he is
welcome in shodalap.com site to open a debate. Otherwise he will be
exposed in time if he keeps preaching his anti-Islamic trash.
Raihan
--- In
khabor@yahoogroups.com, Kajimel Raisuddin <Kraisuddin@
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wrote:
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> Dear Readers, The following Quranic verse in quotation is
translated by parts of the sentences: "Iz k'ala likaumihi ala
tattakun. Atadu'na BA'LAN wa tazaruna ahsan el khalikina. ALLAHu
rabbakum wa rabba abaikumul awwalin." (Quran 37:124-126)(a) Iz k'ala
likaumihi: Remember HE told his clan(b) ala tattakun.: Won't you be
careful?(c) Atadu'na BA'LAN: Would you invite BA'L (d) wa tazaruna:
And you will leave (e) ahsan el khalikina.: The best of the
creators? (f) ALLAHu rabbakum: Allah is you MASTER(g) wa rabba
abaikumul awwalin.: And the MASTER of your fore-fathers. So, we see
that ALLAH is claiming to be the best of the creators. HE is
indicting BA'L as an alternate creator. But HE (Allah) is claiming to
be the best of the creators. The radicals will never accept the
meaning because they are all pre-programmed. They will not even
hesitate to avert the exact meaning of something that is very true,
if that goes against their favor. That's why flat-earth society
exists, seven sky theory persists, 5000 year old world concept
ushers, earth is the center of universe is in sermons, sun goes
around the earth to create day and night is still believed, this
world is bad but hereafter is good is is drummed loudly, women are
men's body part is still a theory, etc. etc. .............. The most
dangerous people on the face of the earth are the so called top
literate folks in non-religious disciplines but remains religiously
radical who set their minds to specific plan to shape everything the
way they want, they orchestrate vehimantly their ideas, whether or
not supported by the verifiable truths or logics. Thanks and have a
great day. Regards,KR
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> To: khabor@yahoogroups.com; notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com;
progressive-muslim@yahoogroups.com; dahuk@yahoogroups.com;
vinnomot@...: ahumanb@...: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:47:11 -0700Subject:
[khabor.com] Mr. Asghar's another deception
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> Mr. Asghar's another deception
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> Mr. Asghar quoted a Qur'anic verse 37:125 out of context and
claimed that Allah is talking about multiple Creators! Here is the
verse 37:125 in context:
> So also was Elias among those sent (by Us). Behold, he (Elias) said
to his people, "Will ye not fear (Allah)? Will ye call upon Baal and
forsake the Best of Creators. Allah, your Lord and Cherisher and the
Lord and Cherisher of your fathers of old?" (Quran 37:123-126)
> So, it is clearly seen that it was Prophet Elias, and not Allah,
who was addressing to his people. During and before 7th century and
still now, a group of people used to worship so many gods who,
according to their belief, take care of different creations in the
world. For example, according some beliefs, there is a god of rain,
there is a god of volcano and earthquake, there is a god of
knowledge, there is a god of good, there is a god of evil, there is a
good of food, there is a god of money and wealth, etc. Prophet Elias
was addressing to these kinds of people who believed in many worldly
gods and idols the way Mr. Asghar and Kamran Mirza believe in Bush to
be one of their gods or idols! In their write-ups, Mr. Ashghar and
Kamran Mirza have admitted that they used to worship moon god, black
box (Kaa'ba), and the vulva of al-Uzza! So, they have admitted the
fact (out of foolishness!) that they were never any sort of Muslim,
although they have been claiming to be ex-Muslim since 9-11 drama to
get special attention from their masters.
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> The funny think is that a blind robot (a.k.a Kamran Mirza)
swallowed Mr. Asghar's deception (?) without ever re-checking the
verse! So, his "Islamic puzzle" has been bounced back to his robotic
head with a massive thrust! It sounds like two robots have been
fooled by each other!!!
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> Raihan
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