Well, History will repeat itself! 1601, Remember East Inida Compnay and that sly, low Lord Clive? Mr Clive first visited India as a part of East India Company to start trade with wealth-rich India, most demandingly for cotton. Before defeating Nawab Sirajouddola, shrewed CLive traded with India for a while, until the opportunity came to colonize India for 200 years. India, a large neighbor has the similar aspiration, it may not show the true color today, but, like sly Clive, it will show its color when needed. Those who think India helped us secure independance during liberation, and its time to pay debt like all BAKSAL lovers, they are fool!. Surely, India helped to separate eastwhile two Pakistans to benefit its own agenda. A weaker Pakistan and Bangladesh is always work for India's advantage. Even for Sri Lanka, India actively helping LTTE for last 20 years, sympathasizing with Tamils, most causing pain & weakening its neighbor and destroying Sri Lanka's economy. India has a global aspiration to be a super power, probbaly within next 20 years. Bangladesh, a small neighbor, will be just a pawn. I guess we don't have much choice! Maybe, in future, like octopus, India will swallow all its little little friends. It would not be so bad, afterall, we are all same people, aren't we? Good luck Madam Seikh Hasina, this is your chance to finish the rest of your dream! We have been dreaming for last 37 years, whay wait?
--- On Tue, 1/27/09, Md. Shamim Iqbal <shmm777@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Md. Shamim Iqbal <shmm777@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Transit issue revisited
To: khabor@yahoogroups.com, "alochona" <alochona@yahoogroups.com>, "bangla-vision" <bangla-vision@yahoogroups.com>, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@yahoogroups.com>, "chottala" <chottala@yahoogroups.com>, "dhakamails" <dhakamails@yahoogroups.com>, "notun_bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, reform-bd@yahoogroups.com, "ShoCheTon" <ShoCheTon@yahoogroups.com>, "sonarbangladesh" <sonarbangladesh@yahoogroups.com>, "wideminds" <WideMinds@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 12:18 AM
| something must be wrong with those, who considers allowing "corridor" to india is the best choice for bangladesh to develop. below message says, "TRANSIT will create huge jobs and healthy infrastucture, includes building of Deep Sea port which is much reqd for BD to combat against JANGIBAD(Presumably part of Digital Bangladesh campaign) and apparently looks like many unemployment young lads having trends towards Terrorism work" --------"corridor" and "deep sea port" can fight terrorism? "what an idea sir ji"  . --------terrorists are being produced in bangladesh? sounds like "voice of india". --------an unemployed person receives salary by turning into a terrorist? if i am not wrong, some indian policemen were involved in malegaon and other attacks, thus one interpretation can be, in india people are employed to become terrorist. it also says, "Muslim dominated countries do have very less study-based think tanks and few which remains are being cornered" --------QUIZ: which group this writer belongs to? option A. very less study-based think tank option B. few which remains are being cornered
--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Chowdhury Ranjan <captchowdhury@ yahoo.ca> wrote:
From: Chowdhury Ranjan <captchowdhury@ yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Transit issue revisited
To: khabor@yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, January 26, 2009, 8:42 AM
TRANSIT will create huge jobs and healthy infrastucture, includes building of Deep Sea port which is much reqd for BD to combat against JANGIBAD(Presumably part of Digital Bangladesh campaign) and apparently looks like many unemployment young lads having trends towards Terrorism work (Ex Embassador Mr Walliur Rahman is going to publish a sensitive document within June'09 as quoted). Pakistan is an unique example...Threat to sovereignty is EYEWASH and ANTI INDIAN PROPAGANDA...we are simply fool..No resource with Huge Population in a country where we need to improve our economy..Transit and geographically well located sea port are the key indication of development of country which we are lagged behind for 35 yrs.(Worth to quote here Muslim dominated countries do have very less study-based think tanks and few which remains are being cornered )Antwerp(Belgium) , Rotterdam(Holland) , Singapore are the example where they have shown remarkable growth on their economy thru Sea/Land based transit Marine Consultant
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, Md. Shamim Iqbal <shmm777@yahoo. com> wrote:
From: Md. Shamim Iqbal <shmm777@yahoo. com>
Subject: Re: [khabor.com] Transit issue revisited
To: khabor@yahoogroups. com, "bangla-vision" <bangla-vision@ yahoogroups. com>, "Amra Bangladesi" <amra-bangladesi@ yahoogroups. com>, "chottala" <chottala@yahoogroup s.com>, "dhakamails" <dhakamails@yahoogro ups.com>, "notun_bangladesh" <notun_bangladesh@ yahoogroups. com>, reform-bd@yahoogrou ps.com, "ShoCheTon" <ShoCheTon@yahoogrou ps.com>, "sonarbangladesh" <sonarbangladesh@ yahoogroups. com>, "vinnomot" <vinnomot@yahoogroup s.com>
Received: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 4:23 AM
| are we missing something? india is asking for a "transit" which is a "corridor" actually. "transit" is mentioned to deceive the people of bangladesh. one day india may agree to allow bangladesh "transit" to nepal and/or bhutan in exchange of "corridor" to north east indian states. this imbalance exchange will not benefit bangladesh as much as it will benefit india. eventually, INDIA WILL HAVE ITS GATES ON BOTH SIDES OF BANGLADESH, this is an extreme threat to bangladesh's sovereignty. i would like to know if there is any such "corridor" allowed to any country.
--- On Sun, 1/25/09, M.B.I. Munshi <MBIMunshi@gmail. com> wrote:
From: M.B.I. Munshi <MBIMunshi@gmail. com>
Subject: [khabor.com] Transit issue revisited
To: khabor@yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, January 25, 2009, 8:47 AM
The Bangladesh Today - 25th January 2009
Every government of Bangladesh - elected or not - feels its incumbent
upon itself to bring up the issue of transit to India but in the end
nothing really gets done except talks which inflame the passions of
the people of this country, moving them to resist any moves by any
government to offer infrastructural facilities to India such as
transit and the use of ports. This has been going on for the last 2
decades but in the last couple of years it has assumed urgent
proportions for India because of their need to get to their states
bordering Bangladesh to the north and east, it being much more time
consuming and costly to travel all the way round than through
Bangladesh. Consider, for example, the fact that right after the
Emergency was declared on 11 January 2007, the Indian Government
invited the Chief of Army Staff to India and gave him a "royal
treatment" in order to elicit some form of commitment regarding the
transit issue - it is of note that the Indians did not invite the
President or the Chief Advisor but the man holding the gun and the
power who got all the attention. Similarly, even before the 29
December election, the Indian Ambassador in Bangladesh was busy
shuttling between the BNP and AL, hedging his bets. When the AL won
the election, the Ambassador came on strongly setting up a visit by
the Indian Foreign Minister whose main agenda undoubtedly would be the
transit, the port and the off-shore exploration of gas in the Bay of
Bengal.
Much has been talked about the issue of transit and there is nothing
new to add as far as the perceptions and view points of the people of
Bangladesh are concerned. On 14 July 2008, The Bangladesh Today
carried a commentary on the issue; it would be worthwhile to reproduce
the major aspects of it here.
The Indian High Commissioner in Bangladesh, HE Pinak Ranjan
Chakravarty, spoke to the press on 10 July 2008, after his meeting
with our Foreign Advisor. Mr. Chakravarty had this to say: "We are
raising the issue at every forum but it is yet to come into effect.
Bangladesh considers the issue as political but it is not that; we
don't see it as political. Both the countries should consider the
issue of transit facility for the development of the overall economy
and trade". Well, from this statement its pretty clear what India
wants and why but perhaps India and its High Commissioner (HC) are yet
to understand what Bangladesh wants and why. So let's get down to the
crux of the business.
Starting with the economic aspects on which the Indian HC seems to be
so insistent, we would like to mention that both Bangladesh and India
have access to each other through various land, river and sea routes
and therefore trade and commerce between the two countries can go on
and increase to any extent that the two countries want. As a matter of
fact India has a huge trade surplus over Bangladesh, which means that
India is exporting far more than importing from Bangladesh. Therefore
it is difficult to see how a "transit" through Bangladesh is going to
further improve the economic aspects, when trade is already heavily
weighted in favor of India.
India has to bear tremendous costs to get to its south-eastern states
all the way round; a transit through Bangladesh would make that access
easier both economically as also militarily because these
south-eastern states are all plagued by insurgencies of one type or
another. No, Mr. Chakravarty it is not Bangladesh which is going to
benefit from the transit - except for the paltry sums to be realized
for the passage through - it is India which is going to benefit,
leaving Bangladesh with a permanent security hazard much like the 25
years Indo-Bangla treaty signed just after the independence of Bangladesh.
While we are on economic issues, what about equitable distribution of
river waters which India is denying us, turning huge tracts of our
agricultural lands into deserts during the dry seasons; what about
damming of rivers upstream and releasing those waters during monsoons
turning the whole of Bangladesh into an ocean; what about trying to
grab some of our Exclusive Economic Zones in the Bay of Bengal; what
about denying our people access to many of our "enclaves" in India and
finally what about flooding our Country with Indian phensidyl, drugs
and intoxicants of all sorts.
Coming to the far more important political and security aspects which
the Indian HC is so keen to downplay, we would like to mention that a
"treaty of transit" is certainly going to include clauses for
guaranteed continued access to the transit routes by India. Should
those guarantees fail at anytime, India would not hesitate to march in
with its military forces to ensure that transit, citing reasons of
"national interest" much like they did in Sikkim, Maldives and Sri
Lanka. So, Mr. Chakravarty, every Bangladesh Government understands
these things and that's why India never got the transit and it never will.
If India wants transit through Bangladesh, we want transit through
India to Nepal and China - this makes more economic sense to us. So by
all means let's have transits, both through Bangladesh and India with
equal guarantees and conditions of access through these routes. Better
still, let's have the historical "Bengal, Bihar, Orissa and Assam" in
one powerful Nation-State of Bangladesh so that India doesn't have to
bother about transit to those areas.
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