Going a little forward, if the people of religion know and accept the fact, that humans like all other living beings, have only one single span of life only here in this world, on the earth, not before, not after. People had little knowledge before and with that whatever they crafted such as religions, heritages, and traditions, were not perfect, and were full of mistakes, wrong ideas, baseless thoughts, and were quite imperfect, unproductive, and road-blocks towards the real growth of humanity and social progress. With the last 50 years' of knowledge boom, tools and thoughts are available now to find facts. Finally it has been proven, and arrived at the final conclusion, that humans are no different than the other living beings, as far as the form of life, and living on this earth. The brain and the hands made humans so much more developed compared to the other living creatures. Soul theory is wrong, mistakenly thought by the crafters of religions and traditions, and quite a bluff to the real truth. All religions have been based on the soul theory and so they are wrong and devoid of real truths too.
People must wake up, look for the truth, give away old wrong practices that are mostly clung by the religions, traditions, and heritages. All humans must put efforts in real meaningful thoughts, works, and practices that shall boost the humanity as a whole, regardless (irregardless) of race, color, heritage, and origin.
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 14:31:20 -0800
Subject: [WideMinds] Re: LIVE LIKE JESUS
The "Muslim form of worshipping" is degrading to human dignity. One can simply also worship by sitting down. One does not have to cringe, grovel & prostrate.
Secondly, the main difference between Muslims & Christians is:
That the Muslims are crazy about living in the time-zone of Muhammad, ie 1400 years ago & will suffer perpetually from no progress".
And the smart Christians refuse to live in the 2000 years times of JESUS or try to duplicate his life as some form of "Sunnah".
So the Muslims live in 1400 years ago Arab desert due to "Sunnah" & the smart Christians live in the century they are living in...................
--- On Sun, 2/1/09, Salman <saman.karu.a@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Salman <saman.karu.a@gmail.com>
Subject: [TUT] Re: LIVE LIKE JESUS
To: the-ultimate-truth-of-life@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 8:02 PM
Dear Randy I just gave some points which are straight forward and where you are not following Jesus. But you and the christians say that you are following Jesus. The couple of points i gave you which you and the other Christians definitely agree on the points which i have mentioned. So if you are not following what you agree then how are you going to agree on the truth which the God has given it with proofs.? Dear Randy you have only given one answer but you may be doing that but what about the other christians i have not heard any christian greeting each other by saying shalom. but they say they follow Jesus. What about the other points like prostraiting to the God by keeping your forhead to the ground. Is it too difficult for the chritians to bend? or is it that they feel that God dose not deserve such worshiping?? ???
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Randy Batcho <randy@transcointernational.com.au> wrote: Dear Salman, Yes I do except for the greeting people saying Shalom. I greet people by saying how are you and then God Bless you. What is the law you are talking about and what is your point?? RBatcho
Dear Randy
You say that you follow what Jesus did in this world.
Are you really following Jesus
Jesus prostrated to God by keeping his forehead on the ground.
Do you follow it ?
Jesus Worshiped God the farther for everything
Do you do it.? Instead you worship Jesus
Jesus greats by saying "shalom" when he meats someone (The meaning : peace be upon you - Assalamualikum in Arabic)
Do you do it?
Jesus said to obey the commandments
Are you obeying at least the first commandment?
Jesus said he did not come to change the law at least by one dot or letter
Why did you change the law?
I can keep on continuing
But you will not have the ability to understand it because of your blind faith.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 5:50 AM, Randy Batcho <randy@transcointernational.com.au> wrote: Dear Salman, Yes Jesus is God. As human we cannot be God, but we can try to live like God. This is the reason Jesus came to earth to show us how we can live in a righteous way. The Bible does not say anything against marriage. Marriage is our decision and it is not a sin. Jesus is God and that is why He did not mary. I am not sure how many fall guilty of adultery. But the fact remains that we should not commit adultery as it is one of the 10 commandments. Yes if you really want to you can try and live like God (Jesus) did. RBatcho
Dear Randy
You say Jesus is the God
As a human how are you going to live like a God
You accept Jesus did not marry
If everyone lived like Jesus without marrying the only way to continue the generation is adultery.. Do you recommend that.
In your earlier mail you said even looking at a women is like committing adultery. So how many christians are there who have not committed adultery like that.
Can you really live like a God?????????????????????????
Think before you use words
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Randy Batcho <randy@transcointernational.com.au> wrote: Live Like Jesus "But [Christ Jesus] made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men."
(Philippians 2:7) Dear Friend, The truth of this verse hasn't really dawned on most people. They mistakenly think that Jesus was able to work wonders, to perform miracles, and to live above sin because He had divine powers that we don't have. Thus, they have never really aspired to live like He lived.
"Oh my," they say with great humility, "I could never live like Jesus did. After all, He had an advantage. He was God!"
They don't realize that when Jesus came to earth, He voluntarily gave up that advantage, living His life here not as God but as a man. He had no innate supernatural powers. He had no ability to perform miracles until after He was anointed by the Holy Spirit as recorded in Luke 3:22. He worked wonders, not by His own power but by the power of the Father, saying, "The Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works" (John 14:10).
And when He prayed, He prayed not as a divine One who had authority as God, but as a man who walked obediently with God. And, as Hebrews 5:7 says, "His prayers were heard not because of His deity, but because of His reverence toward God" (AMP).
Jesus, the divine Son of God, set aside the privileges and powers of deity for a time and lived as a man on earth. Once you grasp that, it will absolutely thrill your soul! Why? Because it means that you, as a reborn child of God, filled with the same Holy Spirit as Jesus was, have the same opportunity to live as He lived on earth. In fact, that is exactly what He intends. In John 17:18 He said to the Father, "Just as You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world."
Jesus has sent you into the world to live as He lived. Through the new birth, He's enabled you to exchange the sinful nature of Adam for the sinless nature of God.
He's given you the ability and the command to live above sin, to live in fellowship with the Father, to preach the gospel, to heal the sick, to raise the dead, to cast out demons, and to make disciples.
Once you realize that, you'll throw off the shackles of doubt that have held you back. You'll begin to live as Jesus meant for you to live--not as a sin-ridden son of fallen man, but as a reborn child of the Most High God. Then those around you will actually begin to see Jesus--in you. Scripture Study: 1 John 3:1-8
--
Randolph
"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jeremiah:29:11
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